His segment starts at Min 13.
The Caffeinated Thoughts Podcast: Camping During Covid-19 w/ Mark Hancock of Trail Life USA
About the Author: Mark T Hancock
Mark T. Hancock, Chief Executive Director, Trail Life USA “Trail Life is a Christ-centered, boy-focused character leadership adventure organization for boys and young men,” Hancock told The Stream in an interview. It is “unapologetically Christian,” and tells the boys that the Bible is their compass that gives them their “true north.”